i did bastion of twillight 25 man heroic. i changed it into 25 man normal, 10 man normal and 10 man heroic when i was outside the raid. when i went inside then it automaticly changed to 25 man heroic. did it each time before i went in. Bastion of Twilight Heroic would still use the old Strict Instance-based Lockout system (more info below)
I then switched the raid over to 10-Man, but found that Saphirion and Kel'thuzad were still dead. This confused the hell out of me, because last week, I was able to do full clears of both 10 and 25-Man Naxx within the same lockout period.
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From now on, players could play raid instances, such as Mogu-Shan Vaults, in both 10 man and 25 man difficulty. Normal and Heroic difficulty raid of same instance will share same lockout as usual. Cataclysm Changes: Shared Raid Lockout 10 & 25 26 Apr Today we got some news about Cataclysm Raid Progression Refinement, in which 10 and 25 man raids are going to share the same lockout for each character, and loot rewards will be the same in 10 vs 25 as far as which items and item levels drop but with a larger quantity of it dropping in 25-man. 10/25 raid lockout division was only good when 25-mans were considered higher difficulty instances than their 10-man counterparts. Shared lockouts as they are now is completely fine. But what I don't like, is the (relatively) new model of heroic raids, which is activated by a singe flip of the "switch" on GUI. The Korean World of Warcraft website had this update today stating that in 5.1, 10 and 25-man lockouts will no longer be shared for KR realms--a call back to the days of Wrath of the Lich King where the lockouts were separate and many considered 25-man raids to be vastly more beneficial than 10-man raids.
2012-04-20 · In Cataclysm, when the raiding design changed to the current format where both 10- and 25-man raids would get the same loot and share a lockout, the party line has been that if you prefer one So it's starting to look like 5.1 might have some surprises in store for raiders. The Korean World of Warcraft website had this update today stating that in 5.1, 10 and 25-man lockouts will no longer be shared for KR realms--a call back to the days of Wrath of the Lich King where the lockouts were separate and many considered 25-man raids to be vastly more beneficial than 10-man raids.
The only time we ran a 10man was last tuesday because people were still leveling up, but from what we've seen certain trash mobs hit about as hard in 10 man as they do in 25, making the former a lot more difficult to deal with. Magmaw raid damage is very harsh in 10 man but caused no problems at all in 25.
US/EU realms still have a shared lockout. I would enjoy that separate lockout but I doubt they will separate the 10/25 raids on US/EU servers.
25 mans will be dead in comparison to what they are now. You'll have some who continue to raid as 25 for one reason or another, but your 'average joe 25 man guild' will either resort to two 10 man
Also do the weekly raid quests and the daily heroic quests, they award more frost badges.|||I suspect Tioga's suggestion about grinding more heroic gear comes from the fact that a gearscore of 4300 is pretty low for someone with all of the Triumph badge gear. The WotLK raids will be the same for both 10 and 25 man versions. This means that Blizzard can design one area and server two very different groups. 10 man raids are much more casual than 25 man raids and allow smaller guilds or even PUGs to attempt them, while 25 man raids require much more effort and coordination.
Heroic loot will be, like in Icecrown, just a buffed up version of the Normal loot. The raid leader will be able to decide between 10-man and 25-man (possibly on a boss-to-boss basis), much like you can now choose between Normal and Heroic mode for
This allows guilds attempting to move into 25 man transition and test people more thoroughly, while still maintaining being able to do the core 10 man raid group. I'm seeing this as follows: LFR - I'd like to raid. Flex - I'd like to raid with people I know (a lot more people in this level than in the next) Normal - I'd like to raid with competence
2010-04-29 · Wrath of the Lich King raids, like Naxx, Uldaur and OS, most people don't do.
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Remember, they will probably not rebalance the loot down to legacy raids. Vanilla raids, BC raids, Naxx, Eye of Eternity, and raids where the difficulty was controlled by in-game mechanics like Obsidian Sanctum and Ulduar only have one difficulty and thus one lockout. Normal/Heroic 10 and 25 all share the same lockout for everything else: Trial of the Crusader, ICC, Ruby Sanctum, and the Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria raids (except Siege of Orgrimmar, which was The major difference will be that 25 man will have more damage and more health to worry about in boss fights and such, and you will get MORE loot drops than the 10 man content does. Also, a raid regardless of being 10 or 25 man, all share the same raid ID and lockout. Do a 25 man version and kill a boss?
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2020-08-10 · You can move between 10 and 25 raid size, given these constraints. Strict Instance-based Lockout. Used for: All classic raids (Molten Core through Sunwell), Heroic difficulty of Wrath of the Lich King raids through Throne of Thunder, and all Mythic difficulty raids. Progress is tied to a fixed instance ID.
This is applicable to: i did bastion of twillight 25 man heroic. i changed it into 25 man normal, 10 man normal and 10 man heroic when i was outside the raid. when i went inside then it automaticly changed to 25 man heroic. did it each time before i went in. Bastion of Twilight Heroic would still use the old Strict Instance-based Lockout system (more info below) I am looking to go back to old legacy raids, to attempt to farm for some rare mount drops. Looking at specific mounts from, for example, Dragon Soul, it mentions that the mount drops: from Ultraxion on normal or heroic (10 or 25) Does the difficulty share the lockout, or the number of players? Ie. Can I run 25 Normal and 25 Heroic in the same week?
The WotLK raids will be the same for both 10 and 25 man versions. This means that Blizzard can design one area and server two very different groups. 10 man raids are much more casual than 25 man raids and allow smaller guilds or even PUGs to attempt them, while 25 man raids require much more effort and coordination.
It's in the official release about the flex raid lockout. Ahh, thank you for the confirmation. Though I'm sorry to hear it.
Archived. Quick question: Can you run a raid in 10man normal and 25 man normal in the same week? Wanting to run Ulduar 10 man Normal and Ulduar 25 man normal for transmog stuff, is it possible to do it within the same week/lockout?